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Platitudes About the Second Ammendment
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dittbub
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PostPosted: May 07, 2008 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cascadia. compare the crime rates of canadian cities to american ones.

canadian cities are located at the bottom here:
http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/050721/d050721a.htm

and US cities here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_US#Large_cities



if you were to look into the stats further, you would find the difference is in gun crime. crime by other weapons only takes over a small portion of otherwise would be gun crime, the rest just disappear
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Clubtender
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PostPosted: May 07, 2008 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing that I notice is that the anti-self defense crowd tend to always use the word need when it comes to discussing the human right to keep and bear arms. If someone exercises his right to keep and bear arms is not a matter of need, it's a matter of personal preference.
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herbie
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PostPosted: May 07, 2008 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know a few kids that were home schooled and did really well.
The other 99% are little religious zombies or trailer trash mini-me's like they were taught to be.
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Clubtender
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PostPosted: May 07, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

herbie wrote:
I know a few kids that were home schooled and did really well.
The other 99% are little religious zombies or trailer trash mini-me's like they were taught to be.


Home schooled children average testing two to three grades ahead of their actual grade. Not bad for a bunch of "religious zombies" and "trailer trash". Laughing
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Americalex
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PostPosted: May 07, 2008 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understood that the other 99% were the unesco braindeads lol

Homechooling may be a terrorist crime now in the US, but it's still worth the risk, considering the alternatives lol
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Sovernty
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PostPosted: May 07, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think home schooling depends on the teacher, you'll only be as smart as your parents. The flip side is that the kids may miss out on some important life experience, the street smarts stuff.

As for guns, I own a few, but I have never felt the need to carry one for protection purposes. When I carry my gun(s), if I don't kill something it is considered a bad day. If someone was going to rob me I'm reasonably sure that they would have the gun pointed on me before I could react or reach for my own weapon, except if someone were trying to rob my house in the middle of the night or something.

At want point does or would the second amendment meet it's limit? Is there any reason why someone couldn't carry a taser or a mid evil sword around with them?, and mumble about how they are not crazy they are defending liberty and freedom? At what point does a weapon become too dangerous to be owned by the public?


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Cascadiadad
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PostPosted: May 08, 2008 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sovernty wrote:
At what point does a weapon become too dangerous to be owned by the public?

Depends. In the American system, the people are always meant to wield the greatest power directly. What would be needed to have an overwhelming tactical advantage against the Federal Military? Who else is going to do it? You need big breaks for a fast car.
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Sovernty
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PostPosted: May 08, 2008 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need a lot of expensive armor and jets to compete with that fat cat.
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Cascadiadad
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PostPosted: May 08, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sovernty wrote:
You need a lot of expensive armor and jets to compete with that fat cat.

A couple of .45s seems a bit slim doesn't it. I've been digging around a bit with the WTO events here in Seattle. The Anarchists seemed to have cleaned the Feds clocks simply by being organized by Cell phones and IM. They simply out maneuvered and out smarted a much better funded though rigid organization. Guns aren't even close to the most powerful thing folk have going for them. I don't want guns regulated, but I'm more concerned about modern communication and technology. I hope the phone companies that sold themselves to the Fed get bent over.
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dittbub
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PostPosted: May 08, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that kind of communication is a top-down thing though, neh? whether its the government in control, or a large corporation, its not the people in control.


unless you see the government as "WE THE PEOPLE" then you ought to prefer government control
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